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airflow vs gas, which is more vulnerable to cup profile? Still confused until now

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Okay, I want to throw a topic I've been curious about for a long time, but I've never found a satisfactory answer.

He said at Zroasting there are two things most vulnerable to the profile: gas and airflow. They say gas is "speed" and airflow is "character." But when I asked some people about his experiences, they were different.

Some say airflow is more important than gas because he controls ROR in the final phase without making smoky. Some say gas comes first, airflow is just fine tuning.

I'm on Prat P5 myself, and honestly I'm still a trial error on this. Yesterday at the development phase, it was easy in the cup, less body. Keep trying to get down, it's more full body but there's a bit of baked note.

Which one do you think is more sensitive to the cup profile? And how do you usually set up sequencing between these two things?
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they're both important, bro, but if I had to choose which ones were more armed, I'd say they were in the cup, I think gas. Why? Because direct gas controls the energy that goes into bean. airflow is more about smoke management and moisture. So if your gas is wrong, airflow can't fix it.
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I had a difference of opinion with Ahmad. It's actually airflow that I tinker with more and more significant results. Especially in Maillard phase phase, that airflow is too small to smoke into the bean and that's what makes the taste "smoky" or "roasty." Gas can be compensated with the time extension, but the wrong airflow is hard to compensate.
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yes, there is, In a machine that has ZZZCF001Z. It's fixed or thin, so you want gas to be good.
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For Probat P5 in particular, from what I've read and tried, airflow is pretty responsive. Try airflow lo not full at the beginning, hold at 50-60% until Zfirst crack, just open larger in development. Should get a more balanced body.
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oh interesting, this I want to try. I've been using Zairflow since the beginning. Thanks
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I'm actually still a newbie so I don't want to be a snob. But in the workshop last month, the instructor said "gas is acceleration, airflow is brake." So both must be ruled together. I don't know if it's true but it's stuck in my head.
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It's too mitigated to choose one. roasting is a system, all variables are mutual. People who say "pretty good one" don't usually have problems with large-scale production. If you're roast 10kg batch and every day is consistent, you need to understand both.
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Baked note yang lo rasain itu kemungkinan besar dari ROR yang terlalu flat pas fase akhir sebelum first crack. Coba cek itu dulu sebelum ngutak-atik airflow lagi. Gas naik tipis di menit 7-8 biasanya bantu.

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